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AI's Impact: Jobs, Economy, and Our Future - with Economist Toby Madden | Imagine AI Live 25 | E139

E139 • Jul 28, 2025 • 16 mins

Toby Madden, retired Federal Reserve economist and lifelong entrepreneur, joins the Imagine AI Live Podcast for a deep dive into how artificial intelligence is fundamentally transforming the economy, the labor force, and even how we educate the next generation. Recorded live at Imagine AI Live 25, Toby brings decades of macroeconomic insight into the AI conversation—offering sharp takes on universal basic income, the limits of consumption, and why AI-driven productivity gains might force us to rethink the idea of capitalism itself. We explore whether AI will trigger deflation, how it’s already impacting junior developers, and what governments can do to harness this shift for the benefit of all. Plus: why UBI might not kill work ethic, how education systems need to pivot, and the surprising link between casinos and statistics education.

Key Points

  • AI's productivity gains can significantly improve living standards but also pose challenges for displaced workers who must adapt to new roles.
  • The rapid advancements in AI technology could lead to various societal models, from strict market-based economies to those adopting universal basic income to manage increased productivity and consumption.
  • Education systems need to be restructured to focus on teaching students how to learn and adapt, using AI to personalize learning and emphasizing skills like statistics that are practical and broadly applicable.
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